Daily Archives: 7 May 2012


> 350 de ani de la aparitia fascinantului volum (1612).

Scriam acum cateva mii de ani despre doi tipi: Nehemiah Grew (1641 – 1712) si John Ray* (1627 – 1705). Cei doi, ambii preoti**, scriau lucruri pe care le auzim astazi din gura “ateilor”: Dumnezeu nu are ce cauta in the science!

Am terminat de citit Logica de la Port-Royal. Autori? Antoine Arnauld (priest) si Pierre Nicole (a clerk in minor orders). Mi-am scos de acolo o multime de citate, unul mai ingrozitor decat altul. Mai jos puteti citi unul dintre ele – foarte lung si foarte horror:

[Sublinierile imi apartin]

“The shortest method which can he found in the study of the sciences, is that of never engaging in the search after any of those things which are above us, and which we cannot reasonably hope to be able to comprehend. Of this kind are all the questions which relate to the power of God, and generally all that belongs to the infinite, which it is absurd to attempt to reduce within the limits of our mind; for our mind, being finite, is lost and confounded in the infinite, and remains overwhelmed with the multitude of conflicting thoughts which it [the infinite] furnishes. This is the shortest and most convenient solution that can be given of a great number of questions, on which we may dispute forever, because we can never attain to any knowledge of them sufficiently clear to fix and hold our minds. It is possible for a creature to have been created from eternity? Can God make a body infinite in size, a motion infinite in swiftness, a multitude infinite in number? Is an infinite number even, or uneven? Is one infinite greater than another? He who should say at once: I know nothing about these things, will have advanced as far in a moment, as he who should have spent twenty years in reasoning on them; and the only difference there would be between them is, that he who had labored to solve these questions is in danger of falling into a lower state than that of simple ignorance, which is that of believing himself to know what he does not. There are also a great number of metaphysical questions, which are too vague, too abstract, and too far removed from clear and well-known principles, to be ever resolved; and the best way is for us to have as little to do with them as we can; and, after having learned, in general, what they are, to resolve boldly to be ignorant of them.

“Nescire quaedam, magna pars sapientiae.” – Hugo Grotius***

In this way, by freeing ourselves from inquiries in which it is impossible to succeed, we shall be able to make more progress in those that are adapted to the capacity of our mind.”

p. 304

Lucrurile sunt destul de complexe, si nu am sa ma intind aici prea mult explicandu-le. Arnauld & Nicole erau jansenisti, iar jansenistii erau catolici. Ray si Grew erau protestanti (Grew, ca si tatal sau, era cleric Nonconformist). In Eros si Magie, Culi’ a spus o chestie fantastica (probabil cea mai tare din toata cartea, serios daca nu…):

“The pagan culture of the Renaissance has been vanquished. To that result Catholics and Protestants contributed equally […] [F]ar from fighting among themselves, they had done battle against a common enemy.” (p. 196)

Eu as fi pus “pagan” in ghilimele, pt. ca “paganismul” sterilizat al Renasterii nu (mai) avea nici o treaba cu paganismul antic, dar ma rog… trecem cu vederea. Ceea ce ramane important e ca God a fost “scos” din discursul stiintific chiar de catre crestini (de aia hard-core, si nu de vreun spalacit oarecare), si nicidecum de catre nu-stiu-ce ateu / free-thinker din perioada Iluminista, asa cum ne invata manualele de istorie pana astazi.

Bazinga, punk!


* Apparently, he also was the first person to give a biological definition of the term species.

** Caci Grew a fost nu doar teolog (cum scriam in postul precedent), ci si preot:

English physician and clergyman…”

Extrem de greu de gasit astfel de detalii astazi…

*** “Ignorance of certain subjects is a great part of wisdom.”